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Ask Johnny Appleseed - Performance Comparison Data Between An Upgraded G4 iMac, A G4 1.42GHz Mac Mini And G5 iMac

Friday, September 2, 2005

Request

I am considering a processor upgrade for my flat panel imac 700 Mhz, namely Daystar's recently announced 1.35 Gigahertz 7457 upgrade. The cost is $550, which is the cost of a Mac Mini. So how would this upgrade for the 700 MhZ Imac compare with the performance of mac mini? the G5 Imac? Even if you don't actually test the upgraded machine, can you provide an estimate or way of estimating its likely performance boost and placement vis a vis the other machines? For example, would it likely run as fast as a 1.33 IBook or Powerbook?
Main applications: web browser, word processor, also I-Tunes and I-Photo.

Robert


iMac G4/700MHz Upgraded G4/1.35GHz - Combo - M7677LL/B vs Mac Mini G4 1.42GHz - Combo - M9687LL/B vs iMac G5/1.8GHz - Combo - M9843LL/A

Specially prepared for Robert

Request a custom performance & features comparison of any two Apple computers

Feature iMac G4/700MHz Upgraded G4/1.35GHz
M7677LL/B
Mac Mini G4 1.42GHz
M9687LL/B
iMac G5/1.8GHz
M9843LL/A
 

Released

January, 2002

July, 2005

May 2005
Current Price

$725

$594

$1,149 (R)

Original Price

$1,499

$599

$1,299
Processor Speed 1.35 GHz 1.42 GHz 1.8 GHz
Cache
speed

512 KB
1.35 GHz?

512K
(1.42 GHz)
512K
(1.8 GHz)
Bus Speed 100 MHz 167 MHz 600 MHz
RAM
(MAX)
256MB
(1 GB max)
512MB
(1.0 GB max)
512MB
(2GB max)
Graphics Card

NVIDIA GeForce2 MX
2x AGP

ATI Radeon 9200
  4x AGP
ATI Radeon 9600
  8x AGP
Graphics Memory 32MB 32MB 128MB
Expansion
Slots
AirPort
2 RAM Slots
AirPort Extreme
1 RAM Slot
AirPort Extreme
2 RAM Slots
Hard Drive 40GB Ultra ATA
5400 RPM
80GB Ultra ATA
  Unknown
160GB Serial ATA
  7200 RPM
Optical Drive Tray loading "Combination Drive"
..... (DVD-ROM/CD-RW)
Slot loading Combo drive
..... (DVD-ROM/CD-RW)
Slot loading Combo drive
..... (DVD-ROM/CD-RW)
Communication
Wired
10/100 BT Ethernet 10/100 BT Ethernet 10/100/1000 BT Ethernet
Communication
Wireless
Optional 11-Mbps AirPort

Built-in 54-Mbps AirPort Extreme
Built-in Bluetooth 2.0+EDR
Built-in 54-Mbps AirPort Extreme
Built-in Bluetooth 2.0+EDR
Ports USB 3 USB 1.1 Ports (12 Mbps) 2 USB 2.0 Ports (480 Mbps) 3 USB 2.0 Ports (480 Mbps)
Ports Firewire 2 FireWire 400 Port
1 FireWire 400 Port 2 FireWire 400 Port
Video Output
Mini-VGA -

DVI
VGA Adapter
S-video Adapter -
Composite Adapter -


VGA Adapter -
S-video Adapter -
Composite Adapter -

Video Options VGA video mirroring Single Monitor video mirroring
Screen Size 15" ..... N/A 17"
Screen Resolution 1024 by 768 1920 x 1200 1440 by 900
Battery Life ..... N/A ..... N/A ..... N/A
Weight 21.3 pounds (9.7 kg) 2.9 pounds (1.32 kg) 18.5 pounds (8.4 kg)
Extras Apple Pro Speakers
Optional SuperDrive (DVD±RW/CD-RW) Optical digital audio output


Extra charge option
Machine with more advantageous feature
Machine with less advantageous feature
Neutral/Unknown/Tie

Feature Analysis: The Mac mini is significantly more feature advanced than the iMac G4. Many of the items that were optional on the iMac G4, come stock on the Mac mini, and in many cases they are of a more advanced, next generation. (Have an opinion or information about the Mac mini? Share them here)

For more detailed information see the following links
iMacs Specs & Features
Mac mini Specs & Features

Performance

Performance Test iMac G4/700MHz Upgraded G4/1.35GHz
M7677LL/B
Mac Mini G4 1.42GHz
M9687LL/B
iMac G5/1.8GHz
M9843LL/A
Processor General 119 points 130 points 189 points
Processor Multitasking N/A 303.31 Seconds 252.75 Seconds
Graphics (Card) N/A 453 points 1153 points
Graphics (Processor) N/A 154 points 221 points
Graphics Gaming (Card) 9 FPS
14.5 FPS 30 FPS
Hard Drive Multi-Files 250 Seconds 150.99 Seconds 90.57 Seconds
Hard Drive Large File 180.63 Seconds 131.24 Seconds 56.64 Seconds

Denotes the faster score
Use cautiously until difference confirmed by other testers

Analysis Performance: Because of the time difference between when these machines were tested we were not able to provide some scores for the G4 iMac. Nor did we test it with an upgrade card installed. The scores we provide for the G4 iMac are estimates based on data taken from the iMac in its stock state. However it is clear that in hard drive performance and graphics performance the Mac mini and G5 iMac would be significant faster than an upgraded G4 iMac.

About the tests:

Processor test, Graphics tests are based on CineBench 2003 which you can download and run on your own machine

Graphics Gaming
Based on the Game 4X4 EVOLUTION 2

Hard Drive Multi-Files – 900 MB Folder of thousands of files

Hard Drive Large File – Single 1.2 GB File

Additional Resources

iMac InfoZone
iMac Performance
iMac Performance vs Others
iMac Buyer's Guide
Apple's iMac Page
iMac Specs & Features

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BBC News
SF Chronicle

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TidBits
CNet
AmbrosiaSoftware
BrainerdDispatch
Fortune
BusinessWeek
ZDNet
MacCentral

Mac Mini InfoZone
Mac Mini Buyer's Guide
Mac Mini Specs & Features

Reviews Mac mini
SchwarzTech
123macmini
BareFeats
ForeverGeek
BareFeats

Also search at MacReviewZone and MacSpeedZone on the following part numbers M7677LL, M9687LL or M9843LL which should turn up additional information

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Mac mini Prices

This Section Updated Thursday, July 17, 2008

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= Current Model
= Previous Model
unavailable = Unavailable
unknown = Unknown/Delay
= Installation Fee ($20 to $40)
Extras
= Canadian Dollars
New, Closeout, OpenBox, Refurbished and Used

Mac mini G4/ 1.42 GHz
Price - Condition - Warranty -Store


G4/1.42GHz 80/Super  #M9971LL/B Originally: $699

Can't Find It? Search store for M9971LL

User Reviews @ Amazon

$550 -Used- Amazon unavailable
$459 to $599 -Used- 90day - PowerMax (Used)  unavailable

$480 -Refurbished- Amazonunavailable
$599 - Refurbished - 1yr - Apple Refurbished   unavailable

$679 -OpenBox- 1yr - PowerMax (Used)  unavailable

$499 -Closeout- 1yr - PowerMax (Used)  unavailable
$750 -Closeout- -- Amazon unavailable

New Mac Minis ....


G4/1.42GHz 80/Combo #M9687LL/B Originally: $599

Can't Find It? Search store for M9687LL

User Reviews @ Amazon

$500 -Used- Amazon unavailable
$549 to $599 -Used- 90day - PowerMax (Used)  unavailable

$519 - Refurbished - 1yr - Apple Refurbished  unavailable
$549 - Refurbished - 1yr - Apple Canada Refurbished unavailableunavailable
$478 -Refurbished- Amazonunavailable

$588 -OpenBox- 1yr - PowerMax unavailable
mail-in printer rebate

$599 -  Closeout- 1yr - PowerMax unavailable
mail-in printer rebate
$750 -Closeout- 1yr - Amazon unavailable

New Mac Minis ....

 


Reviews

July 2005 Mac Mini

All
LowEndMac
Macworld

G4/1.42GHz - Combo
YodaMac

January 2005 Mac Mini

G4/1.42GHz - M9687LL/A
SchwarzTech
123macmini
BareFeats
ForeverGeek
BareFeats



G4/1.42GHz 80/Combo #M9687LL/A Originally: $599

Can't Find It? Search store for M9687LL

User Reviews @ Amazon

$650 -Used - Amazonunavailable

$439 - Refurbished - 1yr - Apple Refurbished unavailable
$459 -Refurbished- 1yr - PowerMax unavailable

$479 - OpenBox- 1yr - PowerMax unavailable

$494 -  Closeout - 1yr - PowerMax  unavailable
mail-in printer rebate
$750 - Closeout - 1yr - Amazon unavailable

New Mac Minis ....


G4/1.25GHz 40/Combo #M9686LL/A/B Originally: $499

Can't Find It? Search store for M9686LL

$439 to $479 -Used- 90day - PowerMax (Used)  unavailable
$480 -Used- Amazonunavailable

$429 - Refurbished - 1yr - Apple Refurbished unavailable
$441 -Refurbished- - Amazon  unavailable

$499 -  Closeout- 1yr - PowerMax unavailable
$501 -Closeout- 1yr - Amazon  unavailable

New Mac Minis ....


New Mac Minis ....

 

iMac Prices

October 2005 G5 iMacs

20" 2.1GHz - MA064LL/A
Macworld
MacInTouch
PC Magazine
Time Magazine
PC World
BareFeats
17" 1.9GHz - MA063L/A
Macworld
MacInTouch
PC Magazine
Time Magazine
Geek.com
BareFeats

May 2005 G5 iMacs

20" 2.0GHz - M9845LL/A
vs eMac G4/1.42GHz
vs Power Mac Dual G4/1.0GHz
BusinessWeek
Vnunet
17" 2.0GHz - M9844LL/A
17" 1.8GHz - M9843LL/A

September 2004 G5 iMacs

All
Detroit Free Press
Washington Times
TechNY.com
PC Performance
1.6GHz 17-inch - M9248LL/A
Boston Globe
G4TechTV
Macworld
TheMacObserver
Fortune
BareFeats
TidBits
Macworld
1.8GHz 17-inch - M9249LL/A
Boston Globe
G4TechTV

BareFeats

Macworld
BareFeats
TheMacObserver
Fortune

ZDNet
TidBits
Macworld
1.8GHz 20-inch - M9250LL/A
Macsimum Closeouts
Boston Globe
Canada.com

G4TechTV
BareFeats

Macworld

BareFeats

MacUser
TheMacObserver
Fortune

MacOpinion
BareFeats
TidBits
Macworld

Sept/Nov 2004 iMac Reviews

All
Washington Times
TechNY.com
PC Performance

1.6GHz 17-inch

Boston Globe
G4TechTV
Macworld
TheMacObserver
Fortune
BareFeats
TidBits
Macworld

1.8GHz 17-inch

Boston Globe
G4TechTV

BareFeats

Macworld
BareFeats
TheMacObserver
Fortune

ZDNet
TidBits
Macworld

1.8GHz 20-inch

Macsimum Closeouts
Boston Globe
Canada.com

G4TechTV
BareFeats

Macworld

BareFeats

MacUser
TheMacObserver
Fortune

MacOpinion
BareFeats
TidBits
Macworld


iMac G4/1.25GHz 20-inch

ComparisonZone: vs PwBk G4/1.5GHz
Detroit Free Press
GCN
Macworld
MacAddict
ZDNet
USA Today
The Advertiser
Sydney Morning Herald
PC Magazine
MacUserUK
The Advertiser

iMac G4/1.25GHz 17-inch

ComparisonZone: vs eMac G4/1.25GHz
MacReviewZone
MacReviewZone
MacReviewZone
MacHome
SF Gate

iMac G4/1GHz 15-inch

MacReviewZone
Times of Oman

G5 iMacs

This section updated: Monday, November 5, 2007

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20 Inch G5/2.1GHz MA064LL/A - Originally: $1,699

Can't Find It? Search store on MA064LL

User Reviews @ Amazon

$1,099 to $1,259 - Used - 90day - PowerMax (Used) unavailable
$1,200 to $1,280 - Used -   30day - Mega Macs unavailable
$2,000 -Used - Amazon unavailable

$1,249 -Refrubished-   1yr - PowerMax unavailable
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$1,299 to $1,399 -OpenBox-   1yr - PowerMax (New/Closeout) unavailable
Double your money back on shipping!

$1,999 - Closeout - Amazon unavailable
$1,598 to $1,699 - Closeout -   1yr - PowerMax (New/Closeout) unavailable
$75 rebate on RAM
Double your money back on shipping!


20 Inch G5/2GHz M9845LL/A - Originally: $1,799

Can't Find It? Search store on M9845LL

User Reviews @ Amazon

$930 to $1,270 - Used -   30day - Mega Macs unavailable
$1,089 to $1,259 - Used - 90day - PowerMax (Used) unavailable
$1,098 - Used - Amazon unavailable

$1,288 -Refrubished-   1yr - PowerMax unavailable


20 Inch G5/1.8 GHz M9250LL/A - Originally: $1,899

Can't Find It? Search store on M9250LL

User Reviews @ Amazon

$830 to $1,000 - Used -- Mega Macs unavailable
$869 to $1,239 - Used - 90day - PowerMax (Used) unavailable
$978 -Used - Amazon unavailable

$1,399 -Refrubished-   1yr - PowerMax unavailable


17 Inch G5/2GHz M9844LL/A - Originally: $1,499

Can't Find It? Search store on M9844LL

User Reviews @ Amazon

$909 to $1,159 - Used - 90day - PowerMax (Used) unavailable
$
930 to $1,020 - Used -   30day - Mega Macs unavailable
$1,078 -Used- Amazon unavailable

$1,096 -OpenBox-   1yr - PowerMax (New/Closeout) unavailable
$75 rebate on RAM
Double your money back on shipping!


$1,600 -Refrubished- Amazon unavailable
$1,288 -Refrubished-   1yr - PowerMax unavailable
$75 rebate on RAM
Double your money back on shipping!

$1,269 to $1,669 - Closeout -   1yr - PowerMax (New/Closeout) unavailable
$75 rebate on RAM 
Double your money back on shipping!
$1,600 -Closeout- Amazon unavailable


17 Inch G5/1.9GHz MA063LL/A - Originally: $1,299


Can't Find It? Search store on MA063LL

User Reviews @ Amazon

$920 to $1,050 - Used -   30day - Mega Macs unavailable
$869 to $1,249 - Used - 90day - PowerMax (Used) unavailable
$998 -Used- Amazon unavailable

$1,049 -Refrubished-   1yr - PowerMax unavailable
Free MP3 sunglasses
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$1,049 to $1,139 -OpenBox-   1yr - PowerMax (New/Closeout) unavailable
$75 rebate on RAM 
Double your money back on shipping!

$1,600 -Closeout- Amazon unavailable
$1,198 - Closeout -   1yr - PowerMax unavailable
$75 rebate on RAM 
Double your money back on shipping!


17 Inch G5/1.8 GHz 160 GB - M9843LL/A - Originally: $1,299 

Can't Find It? Search store on M9843LL

User Reviews @ Amazon

$740 to $830 - Used -- Mega Macs unavailable
$779 to $1,119 - Used - 90day - PowerMax (Used) unavailable
$798 -Used- Amazon unavailable

$1,229 -Refrubished-   1yr - PowerMax unavailable
Free MP3 sunglasses
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$929 to $1,089 - OpenBox - 1yr - PowerMax (New/Closeout) unavailable
$75 rebate on RAM 
Double your money back on shipping!

$1,600 -Closeout- Amazon unavailable
$1,040 to $1,249 - Closeout -   1yr - PowerMax (New/Closeout) unavailable
$75 rebate on RAM 
Double your money back on shipping!


17 Inch G5/1.8 GHz 80 GB - M9249LL/A - Originally: $1,499

Can't Find It? Search store on M9249LL

User Reviews @ Amazon

$690 to $950 - Used -- Mega Macs unavailable
$
778 -Used- Amazon unavailable
$849 to $929 - Used - 90day - PowerMax (Used) unavailable

$1,149 -Refrubished-   1yr - PowerMax unavailable
Free MP3 sunglasses
Double your money back on shipping!

$1,600 -Closeout- Amazon unavailable
$1,029 to $1,199 - Closeout -   1yr - PowerMax (New/Closeout) unavailable
$75 rebate on RAM 
Double your money back on shipping!


17 Inch G5/1.6 GHz M9248LL/A - Originally: $1,299

Can't Find It? Search store on M9248LL

User Reviews @ Amazon

$649 -Used - 90day - PowerMax (Used) unavailable
$
650 to $750 - Used -- Mega Macs unavailable
$778 -Used- Amazon unavailable

$799 - OpenBox - 1yr - PowerMax (New/Closeout) unavailable

$799 -Refrubished-   1yr - PowerMax unavailable
$75 rebate on RAM 

$1,600 -Closeout- Amazon unavailable
$1,049 - Closeout -   1yr - PowerMax (New/Closeout) unavailable
$75 rebate on RAM 
Double your money back on shipping!

G4 iMacs

20 Inch G4/1.25 GHz M9290LL/A - Originally: $2,199

$649 to $739 - Used - 90day - PowerMax (Used) unavailable


17 Inch G4/1.25 GHz M9168LL/A - Originally: $1,799

$649 to $669 -- Used - 90day - PowerMax (Used) unavailable


17 Inch G4/1 GHz M8935LL/A - Originally: $1,999
 
$690 - Used -   30day - Mega Macs unavailable
$629 to $839 - Used - 90day - PowerMax (Used) unavailable


17 Inch G4/800 MHz M8812LL/A - Originally: $1,999
 
$649 to $699 - Used - 90day - PowerMax (Used) unavailable


15 Inch G4/1 GHz
 
$500 - Used -   30day - Mega Macs unavailable
$549   -Used - 90day - PowerMax (Used) unavailable


15 Inch G4/800 MHz - Originally: $1,699
 
$459 to $699 - Used - 90day - PowerMax (Used) unavailable


15 Inch G4/700 MHz - Originally: $1,299

$389 to $559 - Used - 90day - PowerMax (Used) unavailable

 
G3 iMacs

G3 700 MHz - Originally: $1,499

$319 - Used -   90day - PowerMax (Used) unavailable


G3 600 MHz - Originally: $1,299

 $100 to $130 - Used -   30day - Mega Macs unavailable
$279 - Used -   90day - PowerMax (Used) unavailable


G3 500 MHz - Originally: $999
 
$50 to $100  - Used -   30day - Mega Macs unavailable
$229 to $269  - Used -   90day - PowerMax (Used) unavailable


G3 450 MHz - Originally: $1,299

 $60 to $90 - Used -   30day - Mega Macs unavailable
$
189    -Used -   90day - PowerMax (Used) unavailable

G3 400 MHz - Originally: $1,299
 
$149 - Used - 90day - PowerMax (Used) unavailable
Free MP3 sunglasses
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G3 400 MHz - Originally: $1,299

 $90 to $140 - Used -   30day - Mega Macs unavailable
$159 to $199 - Used - 90day - PowerMax (Used) unavailable

G3 350 MHz - Originally: $999

$35 - Used -   30day - Mega Macs unavailable
$139 - Used - 90day - PowerMax (Used) unavailable
Free MP3 sunglasses
unavailable

G3 333 MHz - Originally: $1,200

 $40 to $50 - Used -   30day - Mega Macs unavailable
$89 - Used - 90day - PowerMax (Used) unavailable

G3 266 MHz - Originally: $1,200
 
$40 - Used -   30day - Mega Macs unavailable
$69 - Used - 90day - PowerMax (Used) unavailable

G3/233 MHz - Originally: $1,300

$40 - Used -   30day - Mega Macs unavailable
$39 - Used - 90day - PowerMax (Used) unavailable


= Current Model
= Previous Model
unavailable = Unavailable
unknown = Unknown/Delay
= Installation Fee ($20 to $40)
Extras = Bundled Items
= Canadian Dollars


 

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